How are parents supposed to protect their children when there are speed demons driving up and down the roads, and when you bring it to their attention they decide to just speed down another street...

2: How, as a parent or a "sitter" do you justify speeding to your destination where there are children at play... while you have a child/infant in your vehicle??? 

We live on base and the parents are always hanging out in the street with the kids, not paying attention to them. So just by driving by, you are a speed demon. We actually had PMO on our block because of it a while back. PMO told everyone involved, that there are sidewalks and a speed limit. PMO said that the speed limit is 20 on base but as a courtesy drivers should slow down for children, joggers, etc. My neighbor was the "speed demon". 

Um.... Keep your kids out of the road? My kids don't play in the road. 

That's what I said to modbot... 

i agree with mod. kids belong in their yards if there is room for play supervised. If you're in a residential area have no yard you as a parent should be out there wataching your child that when you see a a car, say "car" and they should run out the road. Not stand there for 30 seconds and expect the driver to com to a stop for 45 secs til the kid is finally aware of their surroundings, because I understand kids zone out and thats why you need to be there to aid them. 

Speaking of kids playing in the road and not to go off topic a bit but I want to rant.

I have NEVER in my life seen so many parent that dont watch their children. Im not talking about being outside and keeping an eye on the kids, Im talking about 2,3,4,5 year olds that straight up are outside by themselves. WTF people. I dont care if we live on base or live on a cul de sac, etc....Watch you damn children. If I am outside playing with my daughter, it is not my responsibility to keep an eye on your 2 or 3 year old every day. Of course I am going to make sure they dont wander or go in the road but it drives me insane. 

see a a car, say "car" and they should run out the road. Not stand there for 30 seconds and expect the driver to com to a stop for 45 secs til the kid is finally aware of their surroundings, because I understand kids zone out and thats why you need to be there to aid them.



Exactly. My kids have been taught to fear the car coming down the road. That may seem to odd to some, but you know what? They won't be the ones taking their freaking time getting out of the road... those kids are too comfortable with cars flying at them. That's how you get run over. 

Um.... Keep your kids out of the road?

^^^THIS^^^

Roads are for vehicles, not children playing.

Since we know there are "speed demons" then all the more reason to keep kids AWAY FROM THE ROAD! 

I have NEVER in my life seen so many parent that dont watch their children. Im not talking about being outside and keeping an eye on the kids, Im talking about 2,3,4,5 year olds that straight up are outside by themselves. WTF people. I dont care if we live on base or live on a cul de sac, etc....Watch you damn children. If I am outside playing with my daughter, it is not my responsibility to keep an eye on your 2 or 3 year old every day. Of course I am going to make sure they dont wander or go in the road but it drives me insane

i agree again. I think we're surrounnded by a bunch of lowlife parents, and it's not just the "safety" they feel being on base, but they would do the same anywhere. They're lazy and if something happened to their child they would just love to blame the rest of the world for their lack of supervision.

I'm actually convinced most of base housing if they wern't in the military would be on some form of welfare living in filth.

(and before I'm attacked, I live on base too, but the stuff I see here would not happen in neighborhoods that have homeowners associations or nice suburbanized areas. 

They're lazy and if something happened to their child they would just love to blame the rest of the world for their lack of supervision.



Yes ma'am. I've seen it around here too.

I let my 11 year old leave my yard. With a cell phone. We communicate every 30 minutes as well as every time he leaves one place and then again when he arrives at his next destination. Some parents also think that is odd. But I know where my kid is. 

I live on base too, but the stuff I see here would not happen in neighborhoods that have homeowners associations or nice suburbanized areas.

My husband and I were talking about just this! Base housing is just fine, it's some of the people on base housing that are the problem. Don't watch they're kids, "drama", etc. We've agreed that next time around when we PCS, we are going to have to buy a house and scout out the area A LOT... 

They're lazy

Yup I once heard someone say that she just turns her kid loose outside bec she needs a break. Dont get me wrong I go outside and let my daughter play with all the kiddos but I have her in my eyesight at all times.

I'm actually convinced most of base housing if they wern't in the military would be on some form of welfare living in filth.

My neighbor and I were just having this same convo last night. On top of people not watching their kids, I have never heard of so many people being involved with CPS. It boggles my mind. 

and before I'm attacked, I live on base too, but the stuff I see here would not happen in neighborhoods that have homeowners associations or nice suburbanized areas.

Um, yeah it would. HOAs are about as useful as a one armed paper hanger.

Just because someone has the money to live in a nice neighborhood, doesn't make them any better.

You can take the trash out of the trailer, but you can't take the trailer out of the trash. 

I have never heard of so many people being involved with CPS.

I haven't either. It's insane how often you hear about it! It's awful how many people just on my block have had a visit from CPS. 

Just wanted to point out that a CPS visit doesn't always mean there is anything going on. All allegations must be investigated. Given the circumstances, I'd say most allegations are made out of spite by pathetic women with nothing better to do. 

That's very true modbot. I know one of a women that I no longer talk to who was "bored" and wanted to see what would happen. Shes a btch. 

I'm sure you're right Deb, but in my experience I have never been subdued to what I've seen/ heard on base in my neighborhoods. Maybe I lucked out. 

I'm sure you're right Deb, but in my experience I have never been subdued to what I've seen/ heard on base in my neighborhoods. Maybe I lucked out.



Right. In my neighborhood, there are a couple of kids loose without supervision or questioning all the time. But on base, it seems that the majority of kids are loose without proper supervision. 

Given the circumstances, I'd say most allegations are made out of spite by pathetic women with nothing better to do.

I agree with this. However in my experience most, not all, spiteful allegations have some valid reason. Had some catty argument not broken out the filth, neglect, etc would have been over looked 

I think we're surrounnded by a bunch of lowlife parents

I was responding to this - not necessarily lowlife PARENTS, but lowlifes none the less.

Jacky, you know who I'm talking about on my street! 

Um.... Keep your kids out of the road?

Ding ding ding lol 

Um.... Keep your kids out of the road?

Ding ding ding lol

This.

Get off your arse and be a parent. Stop smoking crack, taking a nap, picking your nose, beating your husband, kicking your dog, or whatever else it is that keeps you from watching your children and providing for their safety. 

I am always outside with my kids. It irks me too when I see small kids out without their parents. Now I will let my oldest sone who is almost 10 go over to the park right behind our house with his friends(I can see the whole park from my bedroom window) and I make him take a walkie talkie. He also knows that as soon as his friends start leaving he has to leave too. He is not allowed to go by himself, He always has to go in a group. When he is at the park he has to check in every 20-30 minutes. He has done really good with it. We have only had one incident out of all the times that he has gone to the park and it was immediatly taken care of by me. When my little ones are outside though I am always right there with them. My biggest pet peeve is when I am having a party for my kids and the neiborhood kids just invite themselves to the party and take over the activies that I have for my kids and their guests, and the parents think that it is ok. I had one parent yell at me because her little boy came to my son's party uninvited and started jumping in the bouncy house and helping himself to our food. I sent the boy home and the mom got mad at me because I denied her kid some fun, saying I should have invited her son in the first place. 

Just wanted to point out that a CPS visit doesn't always mean there is anything going on. All allegations must be investigated. Given the circumstances, I'd say most allegations are made out of spite by pathetic women with nothing better to do.

This ^^^^^^ 

for those of you that live on base... shouldn't PMO take more priority for those "speed Demons?" You think living on base you would feel more secure or safe. Well living here for as long as i have just brings to light, how little they care. I've even talked to housing about a "safety gate/fence". their response was take them to the back yard. if you have no way to access the backyard and we are on a hill. with am i going to do there. for one thing im not going to carry my kids toys to the back every f'ing time. Also my yard is as "easy" to play in as Boom's prickers, wholes, the works. They say to treat your house as your home. Yeah right. with all the idiots driving i would just like a little added security. and they pretty much say f you. either way it is what it is. i just thought the community could come together on this and buckle down on the [MOD EDIT ♥ Maria]' that think our roads are for racing. 

i rarely see the car in front of my speeding when I drive down the road. 20mph is fast for an area with houses so close in proximity, but how is a "safety fence" going to help IF yolur kid is in the road? I fail to understand.

Put shoes on kids feet, get some fill dirt or if you're too cheap to spend 5 bucks pester housing for it. I just don't get your complaint. 

I just wanted something in front of the house when we play outside. My child's an infant who just started "booking it." just having a fence in front would make me feel a little better, as we play with the balls and so on. I do make her wear shoes. The lawn doesn't prevent us from playing. I was just stating that is was about as safe.

We never play in the street, however, since she isn't aloud for her to go near it, she finds it more appealing.

We aren't Cheap we just have a budget, we did pester housing and their excuse was "we are in a drought." 

Any other place I have ever lived would FIX the problem or reimburse me for my troubles.

Us too
So I that's why I don't understand how it is so difficult. 

That is my problem champ. I'VE DONE ALL OF THAT, AND THEN SOME! I even had a really nice grassy yard in most parts to blanket the prickers, and lawn maintenance goes and Fs that up by cutting the grass WAY TO LOW. Thus killing my real grass I spent a few hundred on, and killing whatever grass was left by AMCC.

I did the same thing. I just asked them not to cut my grass for X amount of weeks, and they didn't.