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Allen 1
Melissa Realtor 1
Ja Ja Jacky 3
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ro42023 --- 11 years ago -

i was driving back home in nugent cove and there was two ladies with strollers walking in the middle of the street. i and another car in front of me had to go all the way in the other lane to pass them. they werent just slightly in the street, they were totally in the whole lane. arent sidewalks used for that sort of thing. atleast walk on the side that cars park on, cause as you all know you cant park on the sidewalk side of the street. so either get off the road, or make it easier for people driving. oh and for that one girl that flicked me off for honkin my horn because you were taking up the whole street, well, you are the ignorant one if you think you have the right of way 

Little Miss Knowitall --- 11 years ago -

Pedestrians ALWAYS have the right of way. 

ro42023 --- 11 years ago -

true that, but seriously you need the whole entire side of the street. when you cross the street at the cross walk, i will always let you cross, cause thats what the cross walk is for and since you have the decency to cross at it i will have the decency to let you cross. its when you take a bit to much advantage of the fact that you have the right of way. the whole side of the street? 

GroomingMyWay --- 11 years ago -

I agree with you ro42023, i have had this happen when in base housing, i do believe this is why they made the side walks to begin with...just saying 

tiamay29 --- 11 years ago -

Agree with huskymom as well as you hun..its kinda rude to me to be honest 

Ja Ja Jacky (Mod) --- 11 years ago -

Pedestrians always have the right of way. But. Jaywalking is a crime. Just because they have the right of way doesn't mean they aren't committing a crime.


If it bothers you enough, call the cops next time. 

Jersey Girl --- 11 years ago -

They do that sht in housing all the time. Buut, it is a community area so..

Even though the posted speed limit signs say 20, the handbook asks that you drive 15 because it is a residential area that they feel kids should be allowed to play in freely. 

ro42023 --- 11 years ago -

im just sayin that as pedestrians do have the right of way, but be reasonable about it, dont hog up the whole street as if you are a car. 

VanishingAct --- 11 years ago -

I agree they took advantage.. however even if they are just on the side of the road (especially with children or strollers) I always go the entire lane over to go around them..

So it really wouldn't make a difference to me as long as they didn't take up the entire road or wasn't during a busy time. 

Little Miss Knowitall --- 11 years ago -

Since when is it illegal to walk in the street, even when sidewalks are available?

Read the driving manual people. The one we all had to read to pass our written driving tests.

Drivers need to yield the right of way to pedestrians. Even if they're jaywalking - you hit them, you're responsible, but they will get a ticket. 

Ja Ja Jacky (Mod) --- 11 years ago -

Pedestrians have the right of way but not when they're walking down the middle of the road- right? Isn't that illegal?


Yes and no. It is illegal to walk in the street when there is sufficient walkways but they still have the right of way. 

ro42023 --- 11 years ago -

oooohhhhh Maria just said SUUUUUUUCK IIIIIIIT 

Little Miss Knowitall --- 11 years ago -

Jaywalking IS illegal, is it not?
Jaywalking isn't the same as merely walking in the street.


Maria,

Is that a Federal law or a state law? 

Little Miss Knowitall --- 11 years ago -

The first one you posted, not the one from the NCDOT site. 

Jersey Girl --- 11 years ago -

Doesn't jaywalking pertain to highways that the government is in control of?

I think that it may not matter in housing.. 

Jersey Girl --- 11 years ago -

Someone with the AMCC handbook look it up.

State laws may not be the same on base. 

Jersey Girl --- 11 years ago -

Housing is owned by the government. It's government property. 

Yes, but you know that housing (or base) has it's own rules. The rules aren't the same. They're allowed to make up their own. 

Little Miss Knowitall --- 11 years ago -

Oh look!

Points for the following:
Failure to yield right‑of‑way to pedestrian

pursuant to G.S. 20‑158(b)(2)b. 4pts

Anyone want to chance not yielding the right of way and get a ticket worth 4 points? 

Little Miss Knowitall --- 11 years ago -

There is no federal pedestrian law. Not that I can find anyway so in that case, the base would automatically defer to state laws.

No it wouldn't.

If it's federal land, it doesn't fall under state rules and regulation. 

Little Miss Knowitall --- 11 years ago -

In VA, the housing I lived in was federal property but the police jurisdiction was Chesapeake City so therefore we fell under VA state laws.

Local police only respond in Slocum housing because it's not fenced in and is technically "off base".

Local police will not respond to any incidents within the fence of CP.
PMO has jurisdiction. 

Little Miss Knowitall --- 11 years ago -

Slocum is the only "off base" housing.

All other housing is within the confines of CP. 

Jersey Girl --- 11 years ago -

Slocum is the only "off base" housing.

All other housing is within the confines of CP. 


Right and CP MP's have jurisdiction inside the fence which has their own rules/laws.

I had an accident on base. I did not get points on my STATE license because it was handled on base. I did get points on my on BASE driving privileges. 

Jersey Girl --- 11 years ago -

The best thing to do would be to call a lawyer and just ask what the law is for that area. Don't know how serious the problem is but if it's getting to a dangerous point, you may want to go ahead and do that. 

It's on base. They need to call the MP's if they have a problem.

I would also suggest looking in the handbook. 

Allen --- 11 years ago -

Well done Maria, I learned something! 

Jersey Girl --- 11 years ago -

I'm sorry but I disagree. A lawyer would know jurisdiction more than an MP would. 

Yes and no. Anything inside the fence on CP is different than off base.

The first step is calling the MP's and reporting it if it is a problem. 

champatlife --- 11 years ago -

Not that this necessarly pertains to the subject other then the fact that the base itself can make up it's own rules/ punishments inside of their compound and it can be different then the states laws, just like they can allow Marines under 21 to drink at the Ball if they're on base, etc. 

Noel --- 11 years ago -

It may not be illegal, but it sure is stupid. Don't walk down the middle of the road, people. Really? With your strollers and all? With all the b*tching that goes on here about speeders and drunk, irresponsible drivers, and you're . . . akglnlehah.

Get out of the road. It's FOR cars, regardless of what the laws of not plowing into potentially deserving pedestrians are. It exists to be driven on. If you are in the way, you are in the wrong. You are not more important than the person wasting gas trying to get somewhere. 

VanishingAct --- 11 years ago -

knock on the door and ask her to close her windows.. (I assume windows were open?) 

Melissa Realtor --- 11 years ago -

people walking in the street instead of sidewalks orth 50 points. If they have kids & you avoid the kid & still hit them get a bonus 200 points for teaching the kid to stay off the street since the parent didn't have the sense to do it themselves ;-) 

ro42023 --- 11 years ago -

Noel and i never see eye to eye, probly never will, but i didnt mean for this thread to become a legal discussion, i just feel just like Noel stated, get out the road. its for cars. if you accidently get hit and break a hip or a leg and the stroller gets toppled over and baby gets bruised up, yes it may be the person driving, but just think how it wouldve been avoided if you werent WALKIN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STEEET. if anyone knows the ladies that do that, tell them to stick that finger where the sun shines cause you know its over used when i honked at you.

It may not be illegal, but it sure is stupid. Don't walk down the middle of the road, people. Really? With your strollers and all? With all the b*tching that goes on here about speeders and drunk, irresponsible drivers, and you're . . . akglnlehah.

Get out of the road. It's FOR cars, regardless of what the laws of not plowing into potentially deserving pedestrians are. It exists to be driven on. If you are in the way, you are in the wrong. You are not more important than the person wasting gas trying to get somewhere
 

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